Jesus went to Hell; Another False Teaching by Doyle Davidson of Water of Life Ministries Plano, Texas – Part 1

Doyle teaches out of the King James Bible that Jesus went to Hell for 3 days.  This is false and I will prove it to best of my ability by the grace of God.  It is obvious that he taught this without any sufficient study in the Original Greek or other versions of scripture either that or he studied and purposely knowingly teaches lies, God knows.  Regardless, teaching lies is sin.  Unfortunately, this teaching that Jesus went to Hell the place of torment is accepted by many in the so called “Faith Movement Churches”, maybe that is where he got it.

The teaching goes this way:

1.      Jesus went to hell.

2.      Our sin put him there.

3.      The death of the Cross was not enough to pay the price for sin.

4.      It was God’s will was for Jesus to me tormented in Hell for 3 days.  In other words sin was not paid in full at the Cross.

5.      Jesus had to pray Himself out of Hell.  Which would mean, if He had not prayed Himself out He would still be there????  Would even be possible to pray your way out of Hell?  Where is the scripture for that?

There is NO WAY that Jesus went to Hell to be judged and tormented!  And I will prove it with scripture.

Doyle would shout “Jesus went to Hell!” over and over again out the blue, or should I say out of the black for no apparent reason, which in and of itself is bizarre. 

When Doyle said Hell he was NOT talking about the place of the Patriarchs, paradise, the place of the dead.  He clearly painted the picture as the Pit.  The place where the worm dieth not, the place where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth, torment and Eternal Judgment.  Whenever he would read the word hell, prison, deep, depths or lowest pit in the KJV, Doyle translated it to us to mean Hell, fire, weeping and gnashing of teeth and judgment, true FIRE AND BRIMSTONE and Jesus was sent there.

The problem is that the word “prison” can mean just that “a prison” in this world or oppression, you have to study. We all have to take personal responsibility and read and understand that Jesus going to Hell makes no sense whatsoever to begin with.  Hopefully your will see this to be true when you finish reading this and it will cause you to do your own personal study.

In many places in the KJV the word written in English to be “hell” can mean other places or realms.  Sometimes “hell” truly means Shoal, Abrahams Bosom/Paradise/Realm of the Dead not Hell.  Research this yourself.  “Hell” is also used to mean the grave/tomb where Jesus body was laid. In the scripture that says “*the sorrows of hell” to me is just that; the SORROWS of referring to the sorrows He endured on the Cross for you & I and all generations to come.

Doyle taught that Jesus was sent to Hell using Psalm 18

*KJV – Psalm18:4 The sorrows of death compassed me, and the floods of ungodly men made me afraid.  5. The *sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me. 

Psalm 18 was NOT a picture of Jesus in Hell the place of torment.  It was a picture of Jesus being beaten throughout that night and then hung on the cross and all the torment that ensued prior to His death.

Now read a more literal translation from the New American Standard:

NAS – Psalm 18:4 The cords of death encompassed me, And the torrents of ungodliness terrified me. 5. The cords of SHEOL surrounded me; The snares of death confronted me (Doyle taught this was Jesus in Hell.  Actually this was Abraham’s bosom also called, Paradise if you study it in the Greek and Abraham was not Hell, plus remember where Jesus said to the sinner on the cross “Today you will be with me in Paradise”, did Jesus lie to him?). 6. In my distress I called upon the LORD, And cried to my God for help; He heard my voice out of His temple, And my cry for help before Him came into His ears. 7. Then the earth shook and quaked; And the foundations of the mountains were trembling And were shaken, because He was angry. (This happened when Jesus gave up the Ghost on the Cross and the Veil of the Temple was torn in two.) 8. Smoke went up out of His nostrils, And fire from His mouth devoured; Coals were kindled by it. 9. He bowed the heavens also, and came down With thick darkness under His feet. 10. He rode upon a cherub and flew; And He sped upon the wings of the wind. 11. He made darkness His hiding place, His canopy around Him, Darkness of waters, thick clouds of the skies. 12. From the brightness before Him passed His thick clouds, Hailstones and coals of fire. 13. The LORD also thundered in the heavens, And the Most High uttered His voice, Hailstones and coals of fire. 14. He sent out His arrows, and scattered them, And lightning flashes in abundance, and routed them. 15. Then the channels of water appeared,  And the foundations of the world were laid bare At Your rebuke, O LORD, At the blast of the breath of Your nostrils. 16. He sent from on high, He took me; He drew me out of many waters. (Doyle taught this was many souls in Hell, this was many people in Jerusalem) 17. He delivered me from my strong enemy, And from those who hated me, for they were too mighty for me. 18. They confronted me in the day of my calamity; But the LORD was my stay. 19. He brought me forth also into a broad place; He rescued me, (Doyle taught rescued from Hell.  This was a rescue of His Soul & Spirit from the Cross) because He delighted in me.

Doyle taught that this was Jesus in Hell using Psalm 22.

Psalm 22:12 Many bulls have surrounded me; Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled me. 13. They open wide their mouth at me, As a ravening and a roaring lion. (Doyle taught that this was Jesus being tormented in Hell, when actually this was Jesus being beaten and hung on the cross) 14. I am poured out like water, And all my bones are out of joint; My heart is like wax; It is melted within me. 15. My strength is dried up like a potsherd, And my tongue cleaves to my jaws;  And You lay me in the dust of death. 16. For dogs have surrounded me; A band of evildoers has encompassed me; They pierced my hands and my feet. 17. I can count all my bones. They look, they stare at me; 18. They divide my garments among them, And for my clothing they cast lots. 19. But You, O LORD, be not far off; O You my help, hasten to my assistance. 20. Deliver my soul from the sword,  My only life from the power of the dog. 21. Save me from the lion’s mouth; From the horns of the wild oxen You answer me. 22. I will tell of Your name to my brethren;  In the midst of the assembly I will praise You. 23. You who fear the LORD, praise Him; All you descendants of Jacob, glorify Him, And stand in awe of Him, all you descendants of Israel. 24. For He has not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; NOR HAS HE HIDDEN HIS FACE from him; But when he cried to Him for help, HE HEARD.  Do you SEE?  God heard Him!Matthew 27:46 About the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?” that is, “MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?”

Doyle taught that Jesus was cut off from the Father and that God abandoned Him on the Cross and then cast Him into Hell for 3 days.  This is not true!!!! God heard Jesus, even though Jesus felt forsaken and abandoned He was not. Clearly Jesus felt the separation because the sin of the world was laid upon him, but according to Psalm 22:24 he was not forsaken and in Psalm 18:18 the Lord was His stay.

Doyle used Psalm 116 to teach Jesus went to Hell the place of torment.  This is talking about Jesus and the Cross and the Resurrection, not Hell.

Psalm 116:3 The cords of death encompassed me And the terrors of Sheol (the place of the dead) came upon me; I found distress and sorrow. 4. Then I called upon the name of the LORD: ”O LORD, I beseech You, save my life!” 5. Gracious is the LORD, and righteous;Yes, our God is compassionate. 6. The LORD preserves the simple;  I was brought low, and He saved me. 7. Return to your rest, O my soul,  For the LORD has dealt bountifully with you.  8. For You have rescued my soul from death (the grave, the tomb, not Hell), My eyes from tears,  My feet from stumbling.  9. I shall walk before the LORD In the land of the living (The Resurrection).

Lizzy J Hansen

Jesus went to Hell; Another False Teaching of Doyle Davidson and Water of Life Ministries, Plano Texas – Part 2

Doyle taught that Jesus had folly and foolishness using Psalm 69.  I am using Young’s Literal Translation for Psalm 69 because verse 5 needs to be literal, most other translations for this verse read:  Psalm 69:5 “O God, it is You who knows my folly or my foolishness, And my wrongs or my sins are not hidden from You.

Jesus was not a fool or a sinner, period!  If He was He would have never been the Perfect Sinless Sacrifice, am I right?  When you question opposing views in scripture you have to study it out on your own.

YLT – Psalm 69:5 O God, Thou — Thou hast known concerning my overturn, And my desolations (the misery of the Cross) from Thee have not been hid. 6.Let not those waiting on Thee be ashamed because of me, O Lord, Jehovah of Hosts, Let not those seeking Thee Blush because of me, O God of Israel. 7. For because of Thee I have borne reproach, Shame hath covered my face.  8. A stranger I have been to my brother, And a foreigner to sons of my mother. 9. For zeal for Thy house hath consumed me, And the reproaches of Thy reproachers Have fallen upon me.  10. And I weep in the fasting of my soul, And it is for a reproach to me. 11. And I make my clothing sackcloth, And I am to them for a simile. 12. Those sitting at the gate meditate concerning me, And those drinking strong drink, Play on instruments.13. And I — my prayer [is] to Thee, O Jehovah, A time of good pleasure, O God, In the abundance of Thy kindness, Answer me in the truth of Thy salvation. 14. Deliver me from the mire, and let me not sink, Let me be delivered from those hating me, And from deep places of waters. 15. Let not a flood of waters overflow me, (Doyle taught this was Jesus in Hell the place of torment, when actually this is the many people that despised Him)  Nor let the deep swallow me up, Nor let the pit shut her mouth upon me” (This was an answered prayer, the Deep did not swallow Him up and the Pit never did shut up on Jesus).

Actually the truth is 1 Corinthians 15: DEATH IS SWALLOWED UP in victory.

Read Isaiah 53 in the Amplified Version, Jesus was never cut off from in the Father.  The term “cut off” was abused by Doyle and has to be studied in depth whenever it is read.  Here it means stricken unto His death, NOT cut off from God. He was cut off out of the land of the living, y’all.

NAS is also close to the Amplified which reads:

Isaiah 53.6 All we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord has made to light upon Him the guilt and iniquity of us all.  7. He was oppressed, [yet when] He was afflicted, He was submissive and opened not His mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so He opened not His mouth. 8. By oppression and judgment He was taken away; and as for His generation, who among them considered that He was cut off out of the land of the living [stricken to His death] for the transgression of my [Isaiah's] people, to whom the stroke was due?  9. And they assigned Him a grave with the wicked, and with a rich man in His death, although He had done no violence, neither was any deceit in His mouth. 10. Yet it was the will of the Lord to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief and made Him sick. When You and He make His life an offering for sin [and He has risen from the dead, in time to come], He shall see His [spiritual] offspring, He shall prolong His days, and the will and pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand.

For you die hard KJV people it says Isaiah 53:8 Taken from prison and from judgment.  Doyle said this was Jesus in Hell, I say NOT.  If you study this it could only mean one thing; this was Jesus being taken away to be beaten and judged by Pilate.

KJV Ephesians 4.8  Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.  9. Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?  (Doyle taught this was Jesus going to Hell to be tormented for our sin, I say NOT!  This was talking about the GRAVE his tomb and Paradise/Abrahams bosom, not Hell fire.) 10. He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.

KJV – 1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19. By which (the Resurrection) also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; (Doyle taught this was Jesus being tormented in Hell; this was Jesus after His resurrection, He was quickened by the Spirit then also he went.)

When Jesus was Resurrected from the Dead He was given the Keys to Hell & Death, which to me means He is the one who can pass though, in and out of those realms.

Doyle taught that heart of the earth was Hell using: Matthew 12:40 for just as JONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE BELLY OF THE SEA MONSTER, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. (This was Jesus’ physical body being set in a tomb for 3 days, not Hell!)

I once was somewhat sold on this ridiculous teaching because I trusted Doyle and his take on it based on the King James Version only.  I never studied it out in DEPTH in the Greek or verified it using other translations; this was a great error on my behalf. 

To be honest I was rather confused wondering what about the scripture where Jesus said “It is finished”?  If it was finished how could he be sent to Hell?  Was the price really not paid at the cross?  Doyle taught that “The Cross”  = “The Gospel” which he now calls “HIS Gospel” included the death, burial, Jesus going to Hell (the place of torment) and resurrection.  Adding to the true Gospel, making it another Gospel, once again.

The freedom that occurred in my spirit with the release of this falsehood was liberating to say the least. I saw the Goodness, Mercy and the LOVE OF GOD like never before.  The fact that The Father took Jesus directly from the Cross into Paradise until he was resurrected 3 days later is a great comfort.  Mainly because it proves that the Cross was enough. 

If Jesus bore ALL our sins, iniquities and transgressions on the cross and carried our sorrows, why on Earth would He have to pay the price again in Hell?  You realize that while on the Cross Jesus said “It is finished”.  If it was not finished and He had to go to Hell He would have been a liar, because it wasn’t finished.  Also, Jesus also told the thief on the Cross “Today you will be with me in Paradise”, NOT HELL! 

Doyle constantly tainted his teachings with the falsehood that Jesus was not this ultra perfect sacrifice by using the KJV of Psalm 69:5 referring to Jesus as a foolish and sinful man because of an error in perception of a translation, HE WAS NO SINNER AND NO FOOL!!!! 

Doyle taught that Jesus had to pray Himself out of Hell.  To think that Jesus prayed himself out of Hell would lead you to believe it possible to do so, and it IS NOT.  This tied into another MAJOR False Teaching that Jesus was not God and that Jesus was JUST a man who was raised from the dead.  Both of these teachings together perpetually diluted Jesus’ divinity and holiness.  The defiling the scriptures to bring The King of Kings down in order to lift himself (Doyle) up.  Do you see the deceit? 

Thank God, The Lord had drawn me to repentance and has forgiven me forever believing these lies and sharing them with others. I find it hard to put in to words the change inside my spirit.  Believing this falsehood held me back from wanting to witness to people and serve God to a great degree.  I had guilt for sending Jesus to Hell and did not even realize it.  I did not trust the Lord as much as I do today because somewhere in the back of my mind I thought God was unjust to send Jesus to Hell after he paid the price on the cross.  And if God would do that to Jesus after Jesus said it is finished what hope is there for me? 

Now I am changed, I have been cleansed, praise GOD!

Lizzy Hansen

Dear Kathie & Captives, Believers that are Servants of The Gospel of Jesus Christ

Dear WOL Captives & Kathie,

Break free if you can, if you can’t and need help to do so, help is on the way, all you have to do is ask!

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/4446/Overview?#tab-living-with-a-cult

To believe the Gospel is not good enough, the devils believe and tremble, we have to be servants too.

If you call yourself are a servant of the Lord Jesus Christ, how can you continue to attend the place and be taught by a person who takes other mens wifes, destroys children & families, causes divisions and has no real fruit of righteousness.  Your friend, brother, neighbor has been attacked and stolen from and you watch and consent to it????  Doyle preaches death and that he is the way, the truth and the mouthpiece of God.   

Did you ever love Jack?  I believe you and many others of you did!  What are you doing?  Get yourself out of there and be a servant of the Lord Jesus!  Many of you have known Jack for over 20 years and I can’t believe that so many of you would do him this way, your attending and giving of money is putting you in agreement with Doyle taking another mans wife and children, you are agreeing with his sin and condoning it and therefore will receive the SAME judgment.  How can you allow yourself to be seduced any longer?  For God-sake wake up!  

Kathie you are lost and wholly given over to this reprobate who is void of judgment.  All of you and Kathie are joined to your idol and we must continue to pray for her and all their children. 

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/4446/Overview?#tab-Videos/06690_00

If you ever loved this family, you would fight for them and be a friend and stand up for what is right and reject Doyles behavior.  By not doing so you are a partaker of his sin. 

Jack has been attacked and betrayed in the worst possible way by his Pastor and his wife!  There is no way on Earth that this is God, or God’s will.  If you could read and could truly see the light of day you would no longer be attending and consuming this “False Gospel” of Lisa is my wife, oh but wait so is Kathie, oh but wait, God has given me 7 wives!  (subliminal mind-control technique called grooming a victim, TEXTBOOK mind control)  The next thing you know women will be volunteering and actually believe it is GOD! 

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/inside-a-cult-3401/Overview#tab-Videos/05168_00

Make no mistake Doyle has his heart and eyes set on having Kathie to turn her back on her own children eventually and cleave to him alone!  To isolate you/her even more. For any of you to say  that you know Doyle is wrong and yet stay and support his behavior makes no sense, why keep leavening you lump with falsehood?  Those of us that have left did so based upon scripture and The Lord revealing to us the lack of liberty and freedom that God ordained.  But it was not until we had detoxed 30, 60 and some 90 days while plowing into the word that we saw the depths of the deception and perversion in this man. We had become deaf and dumb and believed that Doyle HAD to be a man of God and told all common sense the flee because of the leaven of lies.  Many of you said when Terry Mai died “Why did Terry die?  It should have been Doyle.” You have said this and thought this because somewhere inside you, you KNOW he is wrong, yet you still go and get your fill. 

Now is the time to repent and walk away NOT after Doyle is gone.  If you wait it for Doyle to die and think that things will get better, you are not thinking clearly.  It will be harder for you to repent the longer you wait, and this is IF a place of repentance can even be found.  You know we can not repent on our own, for it is God that leads us to repentance and if you know to repent and put it off, what is wrong with you?  You are bewitched!   

We are praying for you and believing that somehow the light of the Gospel will shine into your heart through this dark hour and that you will overcome the mire by which you are held captive.

If you decide to leave, I bid you Godspeed!

Lizzy

PS: Read the postings on this blog, read the scripture and study, and give yourself a 30, 60 or 90 day detox.  Try the spirit to see if I am of God or not.  If you completely tune out Doyle and Water of Life for a period of time and after that choose to go back because I am wrong, nothing will be lost.  God is not going anywhere!  But if you do a Doyle detox, read and pray and research what I am saying and your eyes are opened there is EVERYTHING to be gained!  Withdraw from this place and get alone with the Lord God Jesus Christ and the scales will start to fall from your eyes.  I will continue to be praying for you! 

Judge Not or you will be in TROUBLE with a capital T! Part 3

Having good judgment

To test, try and discern is to judge righteously and it is absolutely necessary for a Christian to do so.  What we are NOT to do, is to have contempt for others in condescending or haughty judgment.  We are not suppose to lift ourselves up or allow anyone else to lift us up above anyone else and condemn others or look down upon anyone in unrighteous judgment.  Can you see the difference?

King James Version:  1 Corinthians 1:9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.  10. Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.  11. For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.  12. Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.  13. Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

Amplified:  1 John 4:1 BELOVED, DO not put faith in every spirit, but prove (test, judge) the spirits to discover whether they proceed from God; for many false prophets have gone forth into the world.

King James Version:  Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil (judge between good and evil).

Amplified:  Hebrews 5:14 But solid food is for full-grown men, for those whose senses and mental faculties are trained by practice to discriminate and distinguish between what is morally good and noble and what is evil (judge between good and evil) and contrary either to divine or human law.

How many church times did we hear, leave your brain at the door before entering? Taking the scripture “carnal mind is a enemy to God” totally out of context?  I will get into that in another post. 

Those that practice and teach “Thou shall not judge at all” or “Judge them….not me” or “Judge everything unto condemnation” or “Judge based solely upon a spirit speaking to my spirit, my own God, feelings or thoughts” are counterfeits and are trying to avoid being judged themselves by the Written Word and the Spirit of the Living God, because THEIR deeds are evil and cannot stand up to The Word.  A humble Servant of God has no problem being judged by the Written Word of God –KEPT within context and properly given by the Holy Spirit.  I hope you are getting what I am saying, I am NOT saying that we should judge in contempt from lofty place condemning those who sin, God Forbid!  That is the type of judgment we are to avoid, but worldly and religious people practice because they have no understanding.  The Father and The Word (Jesus) shines light and condemnation comes through people who love stumbling in the dark through evil behavior. 

King James Version:  John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 

Amplified:  John 3:19 The [basis of the] judgment (indictment, the test by which men are judged, the ground for the sentence) lies in this: the Light has come into the world, and people have loved the darkness rather than and more than the Light, for their works (deeds) were evil.

They take Romans 2 and run amuck, saying if you judge me you will be condemned.

King James Version:  Romans 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.  (Read the whole chapter because it is talking about hypocrisy, read verse) 22. Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?

This  blatant twisting of Scripture goes like this:  If you judge…. you will be judged to destruction and condemnation and maybe even death.   The scripture does not say “Don’t judge”, it says don’t condemn, especially if you are doing the same thing you are condemning.

Jesus came to bring judgment in the world, not Doyle Davidson!

King James Version:  John 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

Amplified:  John 9:39 Then Jesus said, I came into this world for judgment [as a Separator, in order that there may be separation between those who believe on Me and those who reject Me], to make the sightless see and to make those who see become blind.

Jesus is our example.  Do you see that the recovering of sight is judgment?  Are we not here to help those who are blind to recover their sight?  How do we do this?  We judge righteously according to the Written Word of God and the Holy Spirit who always AGREE! 

IF we don’t see it is because we JUDGE NOT righteously or at all and become useless in the Body of Christ.

New American Standard: Luke 14:17And the book of the prophet Isaiah was handed to Him. And He opened the book and found the place where it was written,

    18. “THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME, BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE POOR. HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO THE CAPTIVES, AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND,   TO SET FREE THOSE WHO ARE OPPRESSED, 19. TO PROCLAIM THE FAVORABLE YEAR OF THE LORD.”

New American Standard: 2 Corinthians 4:3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,  4. in whose case the god of this world (Satan, the Prince of the Power of the Air) has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.  5. For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus’ sake.  6. For God, who said, “Light shall shine out of darkness,” is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.

In closing here is 2 Peter:

2 Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:  2. Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord; 3. seeing that His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence.  4. For by these (grace, peace and His divine power) & He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust. 5. Now for this very reason also, applying all diligence, in your faith supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge,  6. and in your knowledge, self-control, and in your self-control, perseverance, and in your perseverance, godliness,  7. and in your godliness, brotherly kindness, and in your brotherly kindness, love.  8. For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they render you neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.  9. For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted having forgotten his purification from his former sins (Proof that Doyle Davidson never even knew them - his former sins – to  begin with is the fact that he says and believes he walks perfectly and has walked perfectly for over 38 years and he has never had to repent). 10. Therefore, brethren, be all the more diligent to make certain about His calling and choosing you; for as long as you practice these things, you will never stumble; (Practice what things and we will never stumble? Moral excellence?  Yes. Knowledge?  Yes. Self-control?  Yes. Perseverance? Yes.  Godliness? Yes. Brotherly kindness? Yes. Love?  Yes and AMEN!  If we or others lack these things we need to seek the Lord, because these are qualities we should possess and can be considered fruit that should be increasing.  Doyle Davidson & his proselytes lack most if not all these qualities or fruit.  We all need to self examine and know one another by our fruits.  If we lack these fruits or qualtites we are blind, and if the blind lead the blind they all end up in the ditch Matthew 15:14) 11. for in this way the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will be abundantly supplied to you.  12. Therefore, I will always be ready to remind you of these things, even though you already know them, and have been established in the truth which is present with you.

One of the many reasons we were taken captive and held captive by a reprobate is unrighteous judgment or no judgment at all in Doyle’s heart and in others who fed us.  However, WE also had unrighteous judgment or no judgment at all and have to take personal responsibility.  This is just one more thing we have to be lead to repentance about.  So I say “I repent, have mercy and Lead ON Lord!”

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Lizzy Hansen

Judge Not or you will be in TROUBLE with a capital T! Part 2

C. “Don’t come against or judge Doyle or you will be judged”  “Don’t judge a Titled Prophet, Prophetess, Apostle, Pastor, Teacher, Evangelist, Bishop or any other sought after hierarchy position or you will be judged.”  Always tied to “Touch not God’s anointed”, yada, yada, yada.

However, it is okay for Doyle or any of these Titled Ones to judge us; the unknown; you know “the sheep” unto condemnation, hell fire and death.   These are all hypocrites, they demand that you do not judge them at all in any manner, yet all they do is un-righteously judge everyone around them for ridiculous sinful reasons;  reasons like if you were to say “No you can’t take my wife” or “The scripture does not say that” or “You are a False Prophet” and the list goes on and on.  Doyle and his minions all strain at a gnat and swallow a camel (Read Matthew 23).  First of all by their fruit they are false and counterfeits and secondly, if they were true they would embrace the Word judging them.  Instead they threaten God’s Eternal Judgment for speaking the truth and calling them out according to The Word, without which we are lost.  So I say to all of you who are still there physically, emotionally or spiritually  “Come out from among them and be separate and let the cleansing begin”. *Read upcoming post “Title Whores” for these two posts are near impossible to separate, because they are so related.

King James Version: Matthew 7: 1 Judge not, that ye be not judged (Do not judge in condemnation according to the flesh.)  2. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. (So, if you judge righteously according to scripture then you will be judged righteously according to scripture as well, Hallelujah!  By the same token if you judge in contempt and condemnation you will be judged that way as well, truly you will reap what you sow.) 3. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?  4. Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?  5. Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye (judge/correct yourself righteously, receiving sight is receiving righteous judgment see last page in this post***); ***and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye. (Then you will able to see and judge/correct your brother righteously, but NOT to condemnation, to aid in him to be able to see clearly. Matthew 23:26 kinda says the same thing.)

Matthew 23:8. “But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers.  (We are all equal, this will be continued in next post “Title Whores”)

Matthew 23:26. “You blind Pharisee (Titled Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers and so on read verse 8 again.), first clean the inside of the cup and of the dish, so that the outside of it may become clean also. 

1 Peter 4:16. Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.  17. For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

D. Doyle and others regularly say “*I Judge not my own self.”  This is crazy to teach that were are not to judge ourselves taking one King James Scripture completely out of context and not believing so many others that clearly say that we are to examine/judge ourselves.  This is used to justify their behavior and sin, read this in its proper context in the New American Standard & Amplified, then read the King James Version of 1 Corinthians 4:3-4:4 noted below the read on your own the rest of the chapter.

New American Standard: 1 Corinthians 4:1 Let a man regard us in this manner, as servants of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God.  2. In this case, moreover, it is required of stewards that one be found trustworthy. 

New American Standard:  1 Corinthians 4:3 But to me it is a very small thing that I may be examined by you, or by any human court; in fact, I do not even examine myself. (For preaching the Gospel not committing sin or breaking any law he was aware of) 4. For I am conscious of nothing against myself, (for he had done no wrong) yet I am not by this acquitted; but the one who examines me is the Lord.

Amplified:  1 Corinthians 4:3But [as for me personally] it matters very little to me that I should be put on trial by you [on this point], and that you or any other human tribunal should investigate and question and cross-question me (for preaching the Gospel not committing sin). I do not even put myself on trial and judge myself. 4.  I am not conscious of anything against myself, and I feel blameless; (for he had done no wrong) but I am not vindicated and acquitted before God on that account. It is the Lord [Himself] Who examines and judges me.

King James Version:  1 Corinthians 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man’s judgment: *yea, I judge not mine own self. (For preaching the Gospel not committing sin or breaking any law he was aware of) 4. For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.

This is speaking of Paul’s imprisonment, that he would not judge himself according to the accusations against him, that those were a small thing.  He did not care about man’s judgment or being in prison but only God’s judgment is according to His Word.  If you are locked into the King James Version I would recommend that you to venture out, but even in the King James it clearly states we are to judge righteously, read below.

King James Version:  2 Corinthian 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?   (If this is not judging yourself, than what is it?)

Amplified 2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine and test and evaluate your own selves to see whether you are holding to your faith and showing the proper fruits of it.  (Also read or see 2 Peter 1 at the end of the post) Test and prove yourselves [not Christ]. Do you not yourselves realize and know [thoroughly by an ever-increasing experience] that Jesus Christ is in you–unless you are [counterfeits] (counterfeits in the Body of Christ say “Judge not….or else!”) disapproved on trial and rejected?

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Lizzy Hansen

Judge Not or you will be in TROUBLE with a capital T! Part 1

I have conversations with people and receive emails from Ex-WOL and current WOL and Non-WOL people quoting Old Testament Scriptures warning me and some even threatening me for stating what I see in scripture and believe.  All of these threats without exception take scriptures out of context, almost always Old Testament Scriptures.  They twist and turn them into accomplishing their twisted desire, their LUST.  The more they twist the more twisted they truly are.  Usually this is done for money and or control.  At times it is to put fear into the sheep…again for control.  At times it is to drag or hinder a Christian’s walk with the Lord because they are envious or jealous of their relationship with God; they believe and sometimes even say things like “You will never surpass me in revelation, knowledge or the power of God”, as IF this was some competition.  At times these twisters even pray or call for total destruction of people’s lives who will not conform to their deceptions, threatening “God’s Judgment” if you dare to judge them, their behavior or their fruit. 

I am here to show what and how these scriptures have been used to frighten the sheep and beat them into submission.   I have heard everything from “Touch not God’s Anointed” to “Oh don’t speak against Doyle, you will be judged” and many, many others.  I will visit each one of these as the Lord leads.  These are weapons formed against the Body of Christ, but they shall NOT prosper.  (I will letter these, but in no particular order; the numbering is just for addressing discussions that may arise)

Scripturally to judge or have judgment can mean many different things:  to reprove, to correct, to discern, to act as a magistrate (legal counsel or actual court judge), to account or to think, to mind or have opinion, to inspect, to plead, to minister justice or vengeance, perception, critical judgment, contempt, to sift or separate, to choose or examine, to condemn and there is The Day of Judgment too.  

The word judge is painted with a dirty broad brush by many, but not ALL uses of the word judge and judgment means for condemnation.  Pride, condemnation judgment and contemptible hatred does not discriminate.  It affects all people of all religions, non-religions, anti-religions and confessed atheists.  Anyone at anytime can yield to this type of condemning judgment, the only kind we are to avoid from what I have studied.  Other kinds of judgment are good and necessary. 

Too often we are taught the following:  

1. Don’t judge me or anyone or anything in any manner.   

2. The opposite “Fire & brimstone condemning judgment of everyone that has an appearance of immorality.

 3. Don’t judge me in anyway but condemningly judge others.

 4. Don’t judge the church hierarchy, Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers, Evangelists, Bishops, Elders at all but judge everyone else who does not have Title, then it is a free-for-all.  Don’t you know that only the top butter cream can judge the milk?

This goes from one complete extreme to the other!  All of these miss-teachings say either don’t judge anything or don’t judge me….. judge them!  They are all equally wrong and are equally damaging to the Body of Christ. 

To have proper judgment, righteous judgment you have to study the written word; you have use a concordance and go back to the literal translations to see the true meaning and use of the word judge and judgment, so that you can see in scripture, be lead by The Holy Spirit and repent.   If you are willing to humble yourself and study what I am saying, it will change your life and your perception of yourself and others.  

A. “Don’t judge”

Recently I received this - Isaiah 11:3-4 it says we shall not judge after the sight of our eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of our ears, but with righteousness shall we judge……….You have made a very unrighteous judgment.  I pray God have mercy on you.

After receiving this, I simply knew within myself that this scripture must have been taken out of context, knowing the word, just a little.  So I went to the Word and read the entire chapter, and my assurance was correct!

Part of my reply back to this was (The entire response can be read under “Travis & Amy”): 

Start: Thank you for your prayers.  God has had great mercy on me, truly beyond measure! It is amazing that you actually are quoting the Old Testament.   So let’s go there shall we?   

Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:  2. And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;  3. And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:  4. But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.  5. And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.

This is talking about Jesus judging the POOR not according to what he saw or heard but righteously.  It is not saying we should ignore our senses.  How else are we to discern good and evil?  If you saw a woman being raped would you judge it as abuse and call 911 or just walk away afraid to judge it?

Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

We are to judge and make decisions based on good judgment every day.  We are to judge right according to the scripture and the Holy Spirit, if we make an error in judgment we repent.  We are to judge them that are within and God judges them that are without.

1 Corinthians 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10. Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.  11. But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no not to eat. 12. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?  13. But them that are without God judgeth.  Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.  Finish

I would like to add: John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.  Jesus is my example, and this is not just hearing in your heart but also hearing according to the Written Word.

B.  “Touch not God’s anointed”

Lord have mercy, this is so grossly taken out of context.  First of all, this is talking about Abraham on through  Joseph and second this does not say it is wrong to “Speak the truth openly” or to correct someone or speak against anything, whether they are right or wrong.

Psalm 105:9 The covenant which he made with Abraham, And his oath unto Isaac,  10.  And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a statute, To Israel for an everlasting covenant,  11. Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, The lot of your inheritance;  12. When they were but a few men in number, Yea, very few, and sojourners in it.  13. And they went about from nation to nation, From one kingdom to another people.  14.  He (God) suffered no man to do them wrong; Yea, he reproved kings for their sakes,  15. Saying, Touch not mine anointed ones, And do my prophets no harm.  16. And he called for a famine upon the land; He brake the whole staff of bread.  17. He sent a man before them; Joseph was sold for a servant:  18. His feet they hurt with fetters: He was laid in chains of iron,  19. Until the time that his word came to pass, The word of Jehovah tried him.  20. The king sent and loosed him; Even the ruler of peoples, and let him go free.  21 He made him lord of his house, And ruler of all his substance;

This actually means not to physically assault God’s anointed ones, study it for yourself; this has nothing to do with words or discussions.  It was a warning not to physically beat or harm God’s anointed ones and prophets.  It was NOT a warning for today’s church saying that we should not to question or speak contrary to someone.  If we are Christians, then guess what, we are all God’s anointed ones anyway.  There is no difference between a doorkeeper and a teacher or anything else, but Title Whores teach and believe that there is a difference.  They can speak against you, but you are not permitted to question them or speak against them, ridiculous. 

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Lizzy Hansen

Doyle who’s your Daddy? Is your Father the Alpha and Omega?

Doyle has never changed and has been saying that he has never changed for over 29 years.  He has never changed and never repented and walks perfect according to him.

Go to the 04/01/09 program and fast forward to 13:50 minutes and listen until 14:05 and you will hear it for yourself.

NIV Psalm 55: 17 Evening, morning and noon I cry out in distress, and he hears my voice. 18. He ransoms me unharmed from the battle waged against me, even though many oppose me.  19. God, who is enthroned forever, will hear them and afflict them— Selah men who never change their ways and have no fear of God.  20. My companion attacks his friends; he violates his covenant.

KJV Psalm 55:19 God shall hear, and afflict them, even he that abideth of old. Selah. Because they have no changes, therefore they fear not God.

It is simple, no repentance no changes no real foundation just a false foundation.

KJV Hebrews 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

KJV 2 Corinthians 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

If you are not lead to repentance, then WHO is leading you?

KJVRomans 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

For Doyle to say and believe he walks perfect, he has never had to repent, he has no sin; this tells me who he is and who his Father is according to scripture.

KJV 1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

For Doyle to hate JR, Jack and many others so much that he prays to his God for them to die and be destroyed.  This makes Doyle a murderer.

KJV 1 John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. 

Doyle would say “Well JR, Jack and these others are not my brothers” he might even call them enemies out in the open.

KJV Matthew 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.  44. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;  45. That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.  (Otherwise your father is the devil.)

Praying for anyone to die and for their destruction is a lust of the devil.

KJV John 8: 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.  44. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.  45. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

Doyle’s Assault of JR & Lisa – Plano Police Report

Travis & Amy

Updated Re-Post to Travis:

Years ago, when you and Amy were quite young I saw you with that bandage near your eye at church.  I wondered what happened to you because it looked pretty bad, I think you even had stitches.  Boys will be boys I initially thought, I thought “Travis must have played a little too hard or climbed the wrong tree”.  But then I heard Doyle ask you, “What happened to you?”  You were silent, and your mom said “He would not mind me”, then I heard Doyle’s response which was “Well, you have to make them mind” with a laugh, I was shocked and and devastated inside!  My first thought was to step in and do something, say something.  I said nothing and did nothing because I truly believed that Doyle being the Pastor would do the right thing and correct your mom, and it was not my place to step in I also thought well surely your dad would make sure it would not happen again.  So I turned and walked away putting my trust in The Lord.  I could not believe what I had just seen and heard.  Looking back I wish I had said something, but since we all and myself included, were so embedded with the fear that helping someone was being a busy body and busy bodies have a Jezebel Spirit and the Jezebel Spirit will take you to the pit, I was afraid to do anything at that time.  But I will tell you this, if I had ever seen it again I would have said or done something regardless.

I pray you can forgive me, even though you do not know who I am, for not saying something. I cannot imagine where you are or what is going on in your life right now, and I just want to say that you are not alone. There are many of us struggling but perhaps none like you, Amy and now Kristin, Evan, John and Steven who are currently caught up in the same devastation and being told by Doyle this is all God.  Which it is not!

I pray you have and Amy have a close relationship with the Lord, I pray that you both have not blamed God for the actions of people.  One thing I know for sure is that in time of trouble or despair if we seek The Lord we will find him.  I hope and pray that you both read the scripture and trust what the Word of God says and ignore all of the private interpretation crap. I believe that if we all seek the Lord He will direct our paths and heal us.  It can take a long time, but if we continue on with Him we will be healed completely.

I and many others are praying for you and all the kids past and present and hope that you all completely recover from this monstrous mess.

I watched you and dozens of others grow up.  Then, one day I noticed you had become a man, but you seemed quite distant, guarded and angry and it broke my heart.  I remember wondering “What is happening with Travis?” It became obvious to me after you left that place that you had good reason to be distant, guarded and angry. Over those years I personally did not know what was going on and believed that Doyle was who he claimed, boy was I wrong!  But for years now I see him as a liar and a thief.   I pray you can forgive everyone someday, sooner rather than later.  If you ever bump into one of us who has left that place, know this we are on your side.

You know, eventually you will have to forgive everyone including Doyle, but also know this; Forgiveness is for your benefit, not theirs.  Bitterness can destroy anyone and it is not worth it to hold on to it, it will eat any one of us up inside. I pray that the storm has passed and that the Lord sustains you guides and helps you. I truly hope you receive the best that life has to offer for you regardless of what happens with anyone else. Travis, you are loved and forgiven by the one that truly matters, Jesus Christ The Lord, and I love you too!

Lizzy

The Jezebel Spirit, Fact, Fiction or Doyle Distraction? Part 4

The Jezebel Spirit, Fact, Fiction or Doyle Distraction?  Part 4 of 4

New King James Version:  Revelations 2:19 “I know your works, love, service, faith, and your patience; and as for your works, the last are more than the first. 20. Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. (Eat what things? The Word of God is considered meat/food right?  This food was offered to idols.  How? By twisting it, adding to it and taking away from it and feeding it to others.  That is what this WOMAN JEZEBEL lead by a Spirit of Whoredom did and it is a warning to us about those men and women who do the same thing.) 21. And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. 22. Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. 23. I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works. 24. “Now to you I say, and to the rest in Thyatira, as many as do not have this doctrine, who have not known the depths of Satan, as they say, I will put on you no other burden. 25. But hold fast what you have till I come.

Amplified Version:  Revelations 2:20. But I have this against you: that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess [claiming to be inspired], and who is teaching and leading astray my servants and beguiling them into practicing sexual vice and eating food sacrificed to idols. (What is food/meat? This food was offered to idols.  How? By twisting it, adding to it and taking away from it and feeding it to others.) [I Kings 16:31; II Kings 9:22, 30.] 21. I gave her time to repent, but she has no desire to repent of her immorality [symbolic of idolatry] and refuses to do so. 22. Take note: I will throw her on a bed [of anguish], and those who commit adultery with her [her paramours] I will bring down to pressing distress and severe affliction, unless they turn away their minds from conduct [such as] hers and repent of their doings. 23. And I will strike her children (her proper followers) dead [thoroughly exterminating them]. And all the assemblies (churches) shall recognize and understand that I am He Who searches minds (the thoughts, feelings, and purposes) and the [inmost] hearts, and I will give to each of you [the reward for what you have done] as your work deserves. 24. But to the rest of you in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not explored and known the depths of Satan, as they say–I tell you that I do not lay upon you any other [fresh] burden: 25.Only hold fast to what you have until I come.

New American Standard Version:  Revelations 2:20 ‘But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and leads My bond-servants astray so that they commit acts of immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. (Eat what things? The Word of God is considered meat/food right?  This food was offered to idols.  How? By twisting it, adding to it and taking away from it and feeding it to others.  That is what this WOMAN JEZEBEL lead by a Spirit of Whoredom did and it is a warning to us about those men and women who do the same thing.) 21. ‘I gave her time to repent, and she does not want to repent of her immorality. 22. ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds. 23. ‘And I will kill her children with pestilence, and all the churches will know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts; and I will give to each one of you according to your deeds.  24. ‘But I say to you, the rest who are in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not known the deep things of Satan, as they call them, I place no other burden on you.  25. ‘Nevertheless what you have, hold fast until I come.

How do you know a False Apostle, False Prophet, False Pastor, False Teacher, False Evangelist, False Brethren, False Christian if you meet one?  Scripture says we are to look at their fruit.  This can be hard with large congregations.  The problem here is you cannot see their true fruit they are too far off.  In order to know a person and their fruit you have to spend time with them and get to know them personally, one on one.  If they have one personna in the pulpit and another at work and another at home with their spouse, something is not right.  Many False Christians keep the general population at bay using their buffer people.  The minions between us and them AND THAT would be a big warning sign too.  If you are being taught scripture or spiritual things by anyone, get to know them, their spouse and their family and see their fruit for yourself!  If you hear a rumor about the person or persons teaching you spiritual things from someone you trust, pursue the truth yourself.  Don’t be afraid to ask them about it, it might be true.  The innocent have no problem proving their humble innocence.  Be ready though, because the guilty will get pride-fully offended or combative when questioned and they usually don’t answer the question or just lie to your face.  Remember, to use two or three witnesses, if you take it further.  That would be in-line with scripture.

What to do?  Put on the garment of praise for the Spirit of Heaviness and lift up your heart toward God.  Spend time in prayer and thanksgiving.  Read the Word.  Do your best to hear and obey the voice of the Lord ACCORDING TO HIS WRITTEN WORD.  Resist The Devil and he will flee from you.

In closing I would like to say that this is what I have personally learned and seen and walked though being lead by the Holy Spirit.  I am not an expert or an authority on anything and do not claim to be.  I see this Jezebel Distraction doing great damage to the Body of Christ today and that is why I am speaking up.  Where is the Gospel?  False Doctrine has to be exposed and rooted out of the Church so we can get back to what truly matters, proclaiming the Cross and the Resurrection and what IT has done for us that believe. 

Lizzy J Hansen